from Switzerland or Germany
The head of this family was probably Jacob (or Felix or Ira) MUMENTHALER.
He was born about 1780 probably in Switzerland or Germany.
I found a Johann
Jacob Mumenthaler born Feb 26, 1656 in Auggen, Loerrach, Baden, Germany.
This is 100 years too soon, but perhaps the family was from that area.
He had sons named Felix and Jacob. His daughter, Rosian named a son
Jacob and a daughter Barbary. And his son Jacob used 3 names for his
sons: Jacob, Felix & Ira. His grandson, Jeremiah Lindesmith
named his first son, John Ira.]
A Momument to the Lindesmith family in the Dungannon, Columbiana
Co, Ohio cemetery, erected in the 1800's shows John Lindesmith married
to Lucetta "Mumenthaler", so this shows the orginal family name. There
were Mumenthalers in Canton of Bern, Switzerland in the town of Langenthal.
Since this family changed their spelling to Momenteller, there
are very few by that name in the U.S., and they all most assuredly come
from this man. In 1920 there were only 3 Momentellers on the US census, all
in northern Illinois.
He married Barbary Ann ? who was born in Germany in 1785.
It was common for Swiss immigrants to go to Germany for a few years before
they moved on to America, so perhaps this is how he met Barbary.
However, Rosian was born in 1807 in Switzerland, so maybe Barbary's family
moved to Switzerland from Germany and they met there. Son Felix was born
in 1810 (presumably in Switzerland; can't find him on the 1850 census). There
is then a 9-year spread before the next child. Some possibilities: either
a child died, or Barbary was a second wife.
In 1819 they were on a sea voyage to America. Barbary's son, Jacob,
was born on board the ship. On the 1920 census, their grandson,
Alonzo, said his father, Jacob, was born "at sea." They landed at Phildelphia
and settled there first. The only close entry on passenger lists
at that time that I can find is for:
Jacob Mergenthalen, age
29, arrived in Philadelphia, Oct. 1, 1819, from Amsterdam on ship
This guy was born abt 1790 (maybe a little young to be the father
of Rosian), however it doesn't show that anyone was traveling with him.
In 1820 Philadelphia was the largest city in the US.
In searching the 1820 Pennsylvania census, so far I have not found
this family in Philadelphia county in:
GERMANTOWN [very difficult to read]
Daughter, Lucetta was born in Philadelphia in Dec. 1822, Barbary
was born in 1826, and twin daughters, Louisa & Mary Ann were born
there in 1829. So it was probably after 1830 that the family moved
In searching the 1830 Pennsylvania census, so far I have not
found this family in Philadelphia county in:
1-WD NORTHERN LIBERTIES
2-WD NORTHERN LIBERTIES
The father (Jacob?) probably died before 1840. He may have died
in Pennsylvania, but more likely it was not too long after they moved to
Carroll Co, Ohio (between 1829 and 1839).
(Carroll Co. was formed in 1832; Lucetta married in 1839
In 1840 there were 18,108 people in Carroll County: 889 in Union
twp. and 265 in Brown twp. (Read more on early Carroll
Carroll County, Ohio is just southeast of Canton. It is just south of
Columbiana County where the Lindesmiths lived.
Carroll co, Oh townships
Son, Felix Momenteller was in 1840 in Union twp, Carroll Co., Ohio,
1840 Ohio, Carroll County, Union
1 male - 30-39 yrs (b1801-1810) - Felix (son, prob b 1810)
1 male - 20-29 yrs (b 1811-1820) - Jacob (b 1819)
1 female - 10-14 yrs (b 1826-1830) - should be 3: Mary Ann & Louisa (b 1829-30)
& Barbary (b abt 1826, m 1848)
1 female - 50-59 yrs (b 1781-1790) - Barbary (mother, b 1785)
Daughter, Louisa Momenteller Lindesmith died in 1848.
Son, Jacob had moved to northern IL about 1849.
Son, Felix died in 1850.
Mother, Barbary was living with her daughter, Barbary Momenteller Morledge
in Brown twp, Carroll Co, Ohio in 1850 (p2).
Daughters, Rosian Momenteller Etnier (p2) and Mary Ann Momenteller Downs
(p1) were also living in Carroll Co. in 1850. Mary Ann had living
with her, Louisa's little daughter Ellen.
[I did a transcription of Brown twp,
Carroll Co, OH]
MOMENTELLER (may be a daughter; she was born so much earlier than
the other children, however Barbary was old enough to be her mother. Her
mother had 2 children--twins after Rosian had her first child. It's also
possible that Barbary was a second wife and Rosian was not her daughter.
Rosian doesn't seem to be as close thru the years with her sisters as they
were to each other.)
Rosian was born Nov. 19, 1807 in Switzerland (or Germany) and
must have come with her parents to Phildelphia in 1819.
Rosian in 1824 was living in Shirley
Twp. [Huntington Co, Pennsylvania?] They moved back to Lancaster Co. Pa.
abt 1827 and started a family, producing 8 children. [Not sure these
dates make sense!]
Sometime before 1828 she was married in Lancaster Co, PA to Jacob Etnier/Eitniear
(b1791 Pa--d1877 Paulding Co, Oh); [Her mother, Barbary had twin babies,
Louisa & Mary Ann in 1829 in Philadelphia.]
They were in Carroll Co,
OH (NE Ohio) in 1850 near several of her family [however son Abraham
married in 1853 in Lancaster Co, Pa.]
After 1853 they moved to NW Ohio.
Jacob settled his family on 80 acres in Auglaize Twp, Paulding Co., while
son, Abraham settled just north of them in Highland Twp. Defiance Co., Ohio
[In 1860 Rosian's sister, Louisa's husband, David K. Lindesmith & family
were also in the next county of Putnam Co, Ohio.]
She died in Oct. 18, 1874 and Jacob
in 1877 in Auglaize Twp, Paulding Co, Ohio. Buried in Ice
.......1.1 Abraham Etnier, b Mar 8, 1828; grew up
in Lancaster Co, PA where he met and married his first wife, Elizabeth
Robbins (1834-1865) (5 ch) they married in 1853 in Carroll Co, Ohio. After
their marriage they moved to Defiance Co, Oh with his parents. Married
2nd 1865 to Sarah Ann Ward (7 ch). M 3rd Susan Emma Croff (10 ch); had
22 children; Child #21 was Felix Momenteller Etnier (1908-1977); He may
also have lived in Brown twp, Carroll Co, Ohio; moved to Michigan
in 1880; d 1911.
Momenteller Etnier, b 1832; ch: Ira Rush Etnier
.......1.3 Isaac Etnier, 1834-
.......1.4 Rosann Etnier, b 1835; m John Shmidt
.......1.5 David Etnier, b 1840
.......1.6 Barbary Etnier, b 1842
.......1.7 Marie Etnier, b 1844; m Daniel Garmon
.......1.8 Jacob Peterson Etnier, b 1854; m Susan
MOMENTELLER, born abt 1810 in Switzerland or Germany. He died
around 1850, though I can't find him on the 1850 census. Can't
find any children.
1840 Ohio, Carroll
County, Union Twp, p 288:
Felix Momenteller 000011-00100001 [The census index says "Mouenteller" but the
microfilm actually reads "Monenteller" or "Momenteller"]
1 male - 30-39 yrs (b1801-1810) - Felix (son)
1 male - 20-29 yrs (b 1811-1820) - Jacob (b
1 female - 10-14 yrs (b 1826-1830) - [should be 3 but it definitely says "1"]:
Mary Ann & Louisa (b abt 1829/1830) & Barbary (b abt 1826, m
1 female - 50-59 yrs (b 1781-1790) - Barbary
(mother, b 1785)
[There are no other Momentellers in Carroll Co, OH in 1840]
He purchased 80 acres in Wayne Co, IL, July 1, 1845; he purchased
40 acres in Wayne Co, IL, Dec. 2, 1850.
Felix was supposedly living in Carroll Co, Ohio in 1850 (his will
was written there in Aug, 1850 while he was sick, but I can't find him
in the census which was taken in October 1850. Maybe he had gone to Wayne
Co, IL in SE Illinois by then.)
Living in Carroll Co, OH in 1850 was:
his mother Barbary Momenteller, living with his sister Barbary
his sister Rosian (Momenteller) Eitniear
his sister Mary Ann (Momenteller) Downs (with Ellen Lindesmith,
daug of Louisa Momenteller Lindesmith)
his sister, Lucetta (Momenteller) Lindesmith had moved by then
to Indiana or Illinois (can't find them on the census)
his brother, Jacob, was probably already in JoDaviess Co, IL (in
Will of Felix Momenteller: August 21,
In the name of God, I Felix C. Momenteller of Brown Township,
Carroll County, Ohio, considering the shortness and uncertainty of life
and the certainty of death, being very weak in body but
of a sound mind and memory for which I am thankful to giver of all good.
First, after my decease I wish my body decently buried and I wish
my soul to return to God who gave it.
Secondly, I wish all my outst(anding) debts to be paid out of
my personal property and if there are any money or affects? left, I
bequeath it with 120 acres of land laying in Wayne County and state of
Illinois to my mother, Barbary Ann Momenteller, to have and to
hold forever and to will and despose of at pleasure.
I leave this as my last will and testament revoking all others
by me made and _____ my _________________.
I set my hand, Felix Momenteller (X his mark) the day above
Signed and sealed in the presence of John Peterson?, Tommy? Laydr?
MOMENTELLER, born abt 1819 "at sea." He married about 1846 in Ohio to Alia
"Aley" Everett (b abt 1828, Ohio). In 1849-1850 he purchased 40
acres in JoDaviess County, Ill.
In the 1860 census he is in Woodbine twp, p968 as Jacob "Monidile".
The 1870 census of JoDaviess Co. lists Jacob Momenteller (p350).
The 1880 census of JoDaviess Co, lists Jacob & his son, Ira
Momenteller with their families.
Jacob died Mar 26, 1882; Aley died Sept 23, 1906. Both buried
City Cemetery (located about 1 mile north of the Village of Elizabeth)
Children of Jacob:
.......3.1 Almira L. Momenteller, b 1850; married John
J. Wixson, Mar 20, 1878 in JoDaviess Co, IL. John was a farmer in Rush
Township. In 1880 they were in Jo Daviess Co, IL.). Buried in Ladies
Union Cem, Stockton, IL.
.......3.2 Alonzo Felix Momenteller, b Aug 18, 1851 at Rush
Creek, Jo Daviess Co, IL; married Feb. 18, 1890 in Chicago, Cook Co,
IL to Della Ardell Phelps (1866-1938); 1910 in Jo Daviess Co; d June
26, 1931, buried Ladies
Union Cemetery, Stockton twp, Jo Daviess Co, IL; children
.......3.3 Ira W.
Momenteller 1852-1939; m Sarah A (1851-1919); JoDaviess County, IL census:
1870 (Woodbine twp), 1880, 1910 & 1930 (Stockton twp); buried
Union Cem, Stockton twp, Jo Daviess Co, IL; children
.......3.4 Minerva Margaret Momenteller, b Jan 6, 1858;
married 3 Jul 1876 Gratiot, Lafayette, Wisconsin to Charles Fremont Perry.
Died Jul 19, 1934, buried Morseville
Cem, Jo Daviess, IL; children
Momenteller, b 1862; died Sep 17, 1863 (age 1 yr) buried near parents
.......3.6 Charlotte E. "Lottie" Momenteller, b 1862; married
Samuel Stayner, Nov 1, 1882, JoDaviess Co, IL. Buried Ladies
Union Cem, Stockton, IL.
.......3.7 Grant Momenteller, b 1868, d Nov 7, 1871 (age:
3y 1m 11d), bur Elizabeth
.......3.8 Ida Momenteller, b abt 1872; d May 2, 1892 (age:
20y 7m 13d), buried Elizabeth
ELIZABETH MOMENTELLER, born Dec 22, 1822, Philadelphia, Pa (son Jerry said
on the 1880 census that his mother was born in Switzerland); m Apr 16,
1839, Carroll Co, Ohio to Francis John Lindesmith (b abt 1816, son of John
& Anna Mary Lindesmith). They lived in Ohio a few years before moving
to Indiana, maybe in 1850 (can’t find them on the census). About 1855 they
moved to Jefferson Co, IL where John was the postmaster at the Blue Ridge
P.O. 1860-61. They were on the 1860 census of Jefferson Co, IL. In
1870 she and 3 children were in Fayette Co, Kaskaakia twp, IL, PO Shobonier
(I don't know why husband John isn't listed). On the same census page with
them is her sister, Mary Ann's family, and her nephew John Morledge (possibly
meaning that his mother Barbary had been there). The families of these
3 sisters, Lucetta, Barbary & Mary Ann, stayed very close to each other.
Lucetta died of Typhoid Aug 23, 1878 (age 55) at Vandalia, IL and
John died 4 months later, Dec. 20 of that year. I have not located
a cemetery. Of their 9 children, 3 preceded them in death.
Obituary from the Fayette (or Fayette County) Democrat (Vandalia):
Mrs. Lucetia Lindersmith (sic), to whom
former reference has been made as being dangerously ill, quietly breathed
her last on the morning of the 23d inst., aged about fifty-six years.
She leaves four sons and two daughters, all of whom are grown, one sister
and brother, together with hosts of friends to mourn her loss. She
was born in Pennsylvania—moved to this state twenty odd years ago, where
she has lived a quiet life and died at peace with all mankind.
[The sister would have been Mary Ann and the brother, Jacob.]
....... 4.1 Hiram Lindesmith, b Mar 26, 1840,
Ohio; d before 1860, IL, buried Locust
Grove Cem, Jefferson Co, IL
....... 4.2 Jeremiah
“Jerry” Lindesmith, b Nov 13, 1842, Ohio; m Amanda Doolen; buried Mt.
Ararat Cem, Douglas Co, MO; ch: John Ira
....... 4.3 Ebenezer
Benson “Ebb” Lindesmith, b Jan 15, 1844, Ohio; m Olive Minerva Campbell;
Cem, Coffeyville, Ks.
....... 4.4 Aley Adline Lindesmith, b Feb 8,
1846, Ohio; m John Hundley [Aley
was probably named for her uncle Jacob Momenteller's wife, Alia.]
....... 4.5 John
Momenteller Lindesmith, b Jan 12, 1847, Carroll Co, Ohio; m 1st Alice Wimberly;
m 2nd Mary (Hunter) Mannon Dunn; buried Sacred
Heart Cem, Asher, OK.
....... 4.6 Loretta Barbary Lindesmith, b Dec 13, 1850; d before
1860, Jefferson Co, IL.
....... 4.7 Joseph Harmon Lindesmith, b Nov 15, 1853;
d before 1860, Jefferson Co, IL
....... 4.8 Newton
Jasper “Newt” Lindesmith, b May 1, 1856, Ind; m 1st Louisa Josephine Barnes;
m 2nd Mary (Hunter) Lindesmith; buried Bomar
Point Cem, Wilson, OK
....... 4i.9 Mary Alice Lindesmith, b Oct 11, 1859,
Ill; m James Benson Clark; bur Hennepin
Cem, Murray Co, OK
MOMENTELLER, born 1826, Ohio; married Abraham Morledge (b1819, Ohio) abt 1848.
(Abraham's first wife, Rebecca Rice was the aunt of Barbary's sister Mary
Ann's husband, John Downs Jr. That means that Barbary's 5 step-children were
1st cousins of her brother-in-law, John Downs Jr.) They were living in Carroll
Co, Ohio in 1850. Her mother, Barbary Ann Momenteller was living with them
in 1850. On the same census page was her sister Rosian and family. Also in
the same county was sister Mary Ann.
Barbary’s brother, Felix Momenteller died bet Aug-Oct 1850, leaving her mother
land in Wayne Co, IL. In late 1850 Abraham sold his Carroll Co., OH,
farm and moved his family to Wayne Co., IL, where he died the next year.
Abraham's brother, John, traveled to IL during the winter of 1851 to bring
Abraham’s five oldest children back to OH. Don’t know what Barbary and her
baby John did. Maybe they went to IL to her sister, Lucetta Lindesmith.
In 1860 her brother-in-law, John Lindesmith (who had moved away sometime
between 1840 and 1860, first to Indiana, then to Illinois) wrote to his brother-in-law
John Downs, Jr. inviting him to come to Illinois. Between 1861-1867 the
Downs family moved to Illinois, joining sister Lucetta. In 1870 in Fayette
Co, IL was the Downs family, the Lindesmith family, and also John Morledge
and his half-brother, Eli. This might indicate that Barbary also moved
with the Downs family to Illinois and died there. I don't know when or
where Barbary or Abraham died. John was Barbary's only child.
....... 5.1 John Howard Morledge, b 1850, Ohio
[In 1870 he was living with his half-brother, Eli, in Fayette Co, IL, next
door to his aunt Mary Downs, and on the same page was his aunt Lucetta
Lindesmith (listed as Malinda Smith) and his cousin Eb Lindesmith (listed
as Ebenezer Smith). In 1880 he was living with his cousin Jerry Lindesmith
in Marion Co, IL. 1889 he was in Galena, Ks (near Joplin, MO) visiting
or living with his Lindesmith cousins Jerry, John & Eb, and also cousin
Lloyd Downs. Died 1917 Choctaw Co, OK, buried Restland
REBECCA MOMENTELLER, Mary Ann's twin, born June 7, 1829, Phildelphia, Pa;
married Mar 20, 1846, Columbiana Co, Ohio to David K. Lindesmith (cousin
of Francis John Lindesmith). She died Dec 20, 1848, 5 days after giving
birth to her second baby. She was 19 and was buried Trinity
Church cemetery near Dungannon, Columbiana Co, Ohio. In 1850 Carroll
County, Ohio, her sister Mary Ann & John Downs had 3-year-old Ellen
Lindesmith living with them.
David married 2nd Melinda Golerda (or Krider). In a letter
by Francis John Lindesmith in 1860 he wrote that David K. had moved to
Muskingum Co., Ohio. But the 1860 Ohio census shows David in Putnam Co, Ohio
and both Louisa's daughter (ages 12 & 14) were living with him and
Melinda. [In 1853 Louisa's sister Rosian and family had moved to the neighboring
county of Paulding, Ohio.]
....... 6.1 Ellen M. Lindesmith, b May 24, 1847, Ohio.
....... 6.2 Louisa Rebecca Lindesmith, b Dec. 15, 1848.
ANN MOMENTELLER, Louisa's twin, born June, 1829, Philadelphia, Penn.
Married John Downs, Jr. bef 1850. In 1850 Carroll County, Ohio,
John and Mary Ann had 3-year-old Ellen Lindesmith living with them.
This little Ellen Lindesmith was the baby of her sister, Louisa Momenteller
& David K. Lindesmith. Living very nearby the Downs was Rosian Momenteller
Etnier & family and also Barbary Momenteller Morledge & family,
including their mother Barbary Momenteller. Carmen Siebenthal (granddaughter
of Newton Jasper Lindesmith) said in 1980 that Lucetta had a sister who
married a Downs. [also see poem that Mary Ann Downs
wrote to Lucetta's daughter-in-law]. They buried 2 children in Ohio
before moving West.
I don't know where they were in 1860. Mary Ann was very close to
sister Lucetta and by 1867 they had moved from Ohio to Kaskaskia, Fayette
Co., Illinois where they were in 1870 & 1880 near the Lindesmiths and
other relatives. Brother-in-law, John Lindesmith said he voted for
Stephen Douglas, but John Downs named a son Lincoln in 1861, so perhaps
they didn't agree politically.
They stayed for a while in Fayette Co, IL after the Lindesmiths died
in 1878. The Downs were still there in 1880, but at some time before 1900
they moved to Texas. In June 1900 they on the census record in the city
of Galveston (4th pct), Texas.
1900 Galveston, Texas, 4th-pct, June 8, p. 193:
Downs, John - 72, head, farmer, b Sept 1828 Ohio, m 50 yrs, par b
. . . . . Mary E. (wife) - 70, b June 1829 PA, 7 ch/4 liv, par b
. . . . . James M (gr-son) - 10, b Dec 1889 KS, par b OH/CO
Interestingly, they would have been there for the devastating cat. 4 hurricane
that destroyed Galveston on Sept 8, 1900 and was the nation’s deadliest
natural disaster, claiming upwards of 8,000 lives on Galveston Island
and on the mainland (estimates range from 6,000 to 12,000 killed). It doesn't
appear that any of the family died in that hurricane. The Texas Death
Index shows: John "Douns", died Mar 18, 1905, Arcadia, Galveston, Texas.
Arcadia is about 12 miles inland from the Gulf coast. John is buried there
in the Alta
Loma Cemetery with his son Lloyd
and Lloyd's wife Mary Alice. Mary
Ann died in 1908 in Galveston (county
death records), so she must surely be buried beside her husband though
the stone does not indicate that.
....... 7.1 Nancy
L. Downs, b 1853, d 1854 Ohio.
....... 7.2 Frank Downs, b abt 1856 Ohio; died prob before 1880 in
....... 7.3 Lawrence
G. Downs, b 1856, d 1866 Ohio
....... 7.4 Dr. Lloyd
Sanford A. Downs, b Aug 6, 1857 Ohio, d May 11, 1924, Galveston, Tx
....... 7.5 Lincoln
Emerson Downs, b abt 1861, Ohio; d aft 1920 prob Wichita Co, Tx
....... 7.6 Florence A. Downs, b/d May 1862 (Oh or Il)
....... 7.4 Lillie J. Downs, b 1867, Illinois
....... 7.5 Harrison "Harry" J. Downs, b 1871, Illinois
(his father had a brother named Harrison). He was a doctor and married
8. Maybe a girl who married a Crissinger (this from
Carmen Lindesmith Siebenthal, granddaughter of Newt Lindesmith, Lucetta's
son). If this census record below is for her family, maybe she was born
about 1814. There is certainly room in the list of children for another
child between 1810-1820. But this would also mean that the Momenteller
family moved to Ohio before 1825; which can't be right since 3 of the
younger sisters were born in Philadelphia 1826-1829. The names of the
children below in bold are Momenteller family names.
In 1850 Carroll Co, Ohio (p 395) was
Samuel "Cressinger" (42) (born 1808 Ohio)
(no wife, but several children, all born in Ohio)
Barbary - 25 (b 1825)
Cordelia - 20 [she probably married
Levi Beckley, Carroll Co, OH Sept 9, 1852; ch: Mary, b 1864 OH, m Jacob Rock]
Mary - 18
Eliza C. - 16
Rachael - 12
Lucetta - 9
Samuel - 7 (b abt 1843)
Olivia - 4
There was also a Samuel Crissinger in 1840 Carroll Co, OH, Brown
twp, p 195:
Samuel Crisinger - 10001-121101
male - 20-30 [Samuel-32]
female - 30-40
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2. Letter from Francis
John Lindesmith (husband of Lucetta Momenteller) in Ill. to John Downs
in Ohio, 1860.